Im my perfession I see a lot of single mothers doing what they need to do for themseleves and there kids as for the being Celibat NOT! I wish some of them would stop having kids.............who am I, I'm just their childs teacher.

For any woman who is Celibat keep doing you cause a lot of people admire that.

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"Let no man pull you low enough to hate him."
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
for "The quality, not the longevity of ones life is what is important."
---Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.---

I know a very beautiful lady who has also been celibate for 10 years and I admire her so much bcuz she is provin that a woman can be productive with her own life with or without a significant other. I would rather have a man in my corner all the way, have him watchin my back and down for me but she is showin that even if she don't have that, she can still do her and I ain't mad at her!!!!!

LOL @ stardus..... I agree so, cyber hug anyone?

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"Let no man pull you low enough to hate him."
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
for "The quality, not the longevity of ones life is what is important."
---Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.---

AWWWWW YOU GUYS!!!! CYBER GROUP HUG!.... LOL

I have scrolled pass this thread a number of times and never opened it, but today something said take a look inside. All I can say is I Love you guys, you are very special people, I've been on other boards and site and most of the time people are arguing and fussing. I can say that being on here is a lot more fun, we disagree but we disagree in love and that's what is truely up.

bbeauzile I can relate to a lot of the things you've gone through, I was celibat for 3 years met a guy was in a relationship for 3 years but celibat for ten years girl I am so proud of you and I know it's not easy because temptation is a mother....... if you know what I mean.

I Love you guys. You are truely Special each and everyone of you.

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"Let no man pull you low enough to hate him."
"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter."
for "The quality, not the longevity of ones life is what is important."
---Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.---

No prob...lol.

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"Life is best lived Giving Love and Sharing responsibility"
~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3
:::Listening 2::::Teena Marie ~ "Cassanove Brown":::::

Hey Euph! Now you have really gone and done it with that suggestion!

Let me be the first to commend you on coming up with a perfect "fan reward"! Can we ramp that up with 1) autographed, limited edition poster; 2) private concert, and 3) advanced notice of future ticket sales!!! LOL!!

Wouldn't it be cool to meet each other at a private event? I'd love to join you all. Thanks for the idea, Euph!

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Deli

i just wanted to repeat this part again...."If by some wonderful blessed opportunity Mario decides to reward all of us faithful posters with a private concert, I wouldn't dream of sharing the experience with any one else."...i second that emotion..lol..

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"Now what am I supposed to do
When I want you in my world
How can I want you for myself
When I'm already someone's girl?
...I guess I'll see you next lifetime"
......Erykah Badu.......

Once again I must commend each of you for being so open, honest, and respectful of one another. Even when we disagree its never a heated debate. I think I've said this before. But I was never really a forum person. I never really got into posting comments and replies, but you guys made it really fun for me. Now look at me I've posted over 500 post....lol. But I just wanted to take the time to say YOU GUYS ROCK!!! If by some wonderful blessed opportunity Mario decides to reward all of us faithful posters with a private concert, I wouldn't dream of sharing the experience with any one else.

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"Life is best lived Giving Love and Sharing responsibility"
~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3
:::Listening 2::::Teena Marie ~ "Cassanova Brown":::::

Wow. You guys blow me away with your honesty and compassion.

BB -- you have my deepest respect. Like mario4rory said -- the best thing about this site is US!!

I've been out of pocket for a few days, and was missing the action about M. But I come back and find something more deep going on. Yes, I luv M. But we have discovered a deeper meaning to our connection thru this board.

Thank you Ladies/Gents for being so accepting and caring.

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Deli

not only is it hard as teenagers but as young adults,
who am i kidding, its even hard for the adults to deal with how they feel & their desires
one part of society makes it feel like its ok to express yourself
while the other part refuses to talk about and admit that even though
you are not participating in those acts
you still wonder and think about them
i think that if parents back then were as open minded and as willing to
teach and talk to their children, then accepting change and understanding our bodies and choices would of been alot easier
i think that as human beings we all want to please ourselves
and we all know that pleasing the flesh is one of the hardest fight that there is
b/c you reach a point where you want to explore different types of things
whether it be emotional, physical or even spiritual
at the end its all about how it makes you feel and how you are able to deal with yourself
you have to go through so much when dealing with growth
and if you dont have someone to guide you or just someone
with an open mind to talk to

Hi bbeauzile,
How're you doing gurl. I'm really sorry that u had to go through all of the things that you mentioned. No one deserves to, and I cant begin to imagine how hard that must've been for you. I'm glad that you can talk about it with us and I'm honoured by ur trust in us.
At the end of the day, we all know in our hearts that the only type of "sex" we appreciate is sex with someone that you cherish, thats what makes it meaningful and worthy.

I must admit that there are times when I wonder what I'm doing all this for, then I remember the saying "ur body is "THE" of God" now I sure dont want HIM looking into ur heart and fnding all sorts of nastiness. Its more the fear and respect for God that keeps me grounded and also the fact that these guys trying to get with you have no morals and equally no self respect for themselves.
All of that is enough to remind me of the purpose of celibacy. It wasn't actually something I started out to do, it just happened upon me. All the same, I'm thankful for it as it made me respect myself more.

you know i tell people all the time that the best thing for me about Mario's site is not even Mario but you guys...even though i'm a huge Mario fan i come on this board just to talk to you ladies (and gents ,when they do talk..haha)...you know what i think is sad?..sooooo many children get molested and no one ever talks about it...idk maybe you talking about it will help someone else open up about themselves...thanks for sharing bbeauzile79 :)

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"Now what am I supposed to do
When I want you in my world
How can I want you for myself
When I'm already someone's girl?
...I guess I'll see you next lifetime"
......Erykah Badu.......

miss E.
you are not intruding nor are you stepping your grounds
this forum has allowed me to be more open with myself and feel comfortable
enough to let go and let God
yes i've been celibate and no its not that hard
but at times my mind keeps wondering "what if "
i was molested and raped at an early age
so that has enabled be to basically stay away from men
and try to overcome various walls that i built up along the years
but through counseling and prayer i overcame alot of hardship
i dont want you guys to start thinking oh this is sad
i was 16 and now im 28
whatever will be will be
things happen in life that we will never know why
but this allowed me to accept christ, forgive and make peace with myself and that situation
dont get me wrong i have male friends that i'm cool with
but i just dont deal with the intimacy part
i guess you can say that it has made me appreciate myself alot more

besides my family became very critical of everything and very strict
my problem is that even if i wanted to actual have sex with somebody,
i dont think i'd have the guts to go through with it
maybe its just fear of getting or making a mistake
it could even be the fact that my spiritual conscious would not
let me live or let me be
but only God knows, i'll just take it one day at a time
but sometimes when you see your family and friends
talking about certain topics that you cant or that doesnt really apply
to you it get annoying, my cousins have bets on who is going to
either get married first or have sex first
its ridiculous, now all my mom talks about is becoming a grandmother
my sister doesnt want any and my other sister is too young
i tell her that when i wanted a boyfriend she and my said no
so now im not that interested, i guess one day when the time is right

Preach sistas, preach!

I'm just kidding. I honestly agree with u bbeauzile. So you've been celibate all ur life? Pls ignore me if am stepping into personal territory. I really do admire people that keep it strong, including my strong self. Its just that....it gets really hard, sometimes especially in summer when everyone's parading around showing each other off, and they look at you like u the grandchild of the old lady who lived in a shoe, like ain't nobody want you and u cant get a man, etc, I know its silly and petty, but I'd be telling a lie if I said being single didnt bother me sometimes.

no it's not easy bein celibate bbeauzile and I highly applaud the woman who has been for the last 10 years as well as the other women who are practicin celibacy. it ain't easy at all I know for a fact lol. I've only been able to withstand bcuz of my beliefs as well and it's really hard bcuz I'm around those tempting lucious men a great deal of the day and a lot of them are beautifully sculpted construction men with them tools (if ya know what I mean lol) oh the adversary is so full of schemes and connery..always tryna fool somebody who's tryna do right LoL
but when a woman has her spirit in order, it's not as hard lol

a lot of guys can just have sex with a woman and there be no type of commitment but I know as a woman that is very hard for some women to do, and then you have the no definition type of women who just want sex. my girl was sayin that's all she wants from any man cuz men are too flaky and scared to commit .. but what about the woman who has the man in some type of commited way but she ain't doin what she's supposed to be doin. she tryna get with other men just for whatever.. both sides are flaky!! LoL

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love is stronger than pride

WELL SAID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and i agree with you...

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" We 'Otta Be Making Love
Instead Of Breaking Up
Come On Baby Let Me Show You I'm Fo' real
(Lay In My Bed)"
...MARIO....

as i got older i began to realize how hard it really is
sometimes i feel like i missed out on my teenage years
but then there are times i think that it's worth the wait
and just b/c you think about sex or want to have sex
that doesnt make you any different nor does it make you weird
i'm finally embracing myself and appreciating the fact that we all have needs and desires
sometimes i say that i want to wait for marriage and sometimes
i want to say want to say what am i waiting for?
but as of now, i'm still hoping and praying
the only difference is that this time, i go by what i want and what the lord tells me and not by how i was raised though i appreciate their concepts and values
i think that being celibate is a great thing but now im realizing it's not as easy as it seems
but if you decide to sleep with someone or become intimate with someone
you should be safe and very careful
most importantly always know what you want in order to be honest with yourself and your partner
and ladies there are men out there that are willing to wait, while others will respect you and leave you alone b/c of it
some would want to challenge it to see if you would break or give in
but the right man can and will wait, one thing i believe is that GOD never makes partners to be unevenly yoked, they may be differents cultures, characters and attitudes but he wont bring you someone who doesnt respect your values and your faith
i would love to know what the opposite sex has to say about this topic

Interesting topic ladies
now regading the matter of being a celibate
I'm 28yrs old to be honest with you guys I never had a problem
with being celibate until i turned 24
i always believed in waiting for marriage before you have sex with someone
see, i was raised in a haitian culture and that meant
the old traditional ways of men having to ask your parents permission
and my dad side of the family are christians and my mom's side are catholic
so they didnt believe in dating, premarital sex
so i didnt pay attention to dating and sex
my family never had the "sex talk" with us girls (i have 3 sisters and 1 brother)
in my mom's opinion, men can do whatever they want
cause they wont lose anything but women get emotionally involved, get her heart broken and become pregnant, not that she agreed with it but she felt that's how society raised her so she kept that mentality

Hey gurls, hows it going. Nice convo going on here, from celibacy to sex therapy. I love this joint. lol. Being a sex therapist sounds very exciting, I would love to hear other peoples fantasies. Yeah, am a freak! lol.

No actually, I left school and pursued my music. Now I have my own clothing company with a store front, and four acts that I'm mentoring in artist development. Everythings good. I'm still thinking about going back to school for it, but who knows. I'm loving what I do now.

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"Life is best lived Giving Love and Sharing responsibility"
~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3
:::Listening 2::::Chrisette Michele ~ "Love is You":::::

lol, well yea I could vibe with somethin like that. I think God has people chosen to do certain things in this life and I used to question myself, but now I know that he has me here to be a blessin and help society in the way I'm chosen to do. my life is definitely more spiritual than worldly and I just vibe with it. I'm feelin my callin. lol. are you doin sex therapy now??

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keepin it @ 100%

Actually the whole premise behind sex theory is beyond just giving sexual tips and advice. I wanted to go into the more deeper side of it. With counseling for addictions, helping individuals overcome sexual fears, couples counseling, sexual and non sexual education, all those things. Like Dr. Ruth to the fifth power...lol

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"Life is best lived Giving Love and Sharing responsibility"
~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3
:::Listening 2::::Chrisette Michele ~ "Love is You":::::

Yea, I was thinkin pretty much the same thing Euph, about non-judgmentalism bcuz it's too easy to do that sometimes. I think society has been programmd with the negative and thus they judge or prejudge unconsciously,, and I've been a victim of that for a great deal of my life already. it's no big deal tho cuz I can come on the forum and chill lol. I know that's right a lot of women struggle wit tryna stay celibate/true to their partners and so on but it must be real hard,, I can't get over the woman Marios Ghetto Love talked about tho, 10 yrs.,cuz that ain't no joke lol!! well, I've been celibate for a long minute myself so I know the intensity that a woman can experience like the headaches, mood swings, depression, irritability and even insomnia ..I know I've dealt with all of 'em !! lol. I might have to do like you did Euph and ask Heavenly Father to forgive me for the meltdown. I ain't even playin now! lol at sex therapist.. what do they do anyway Euph?? lol gurrll that must be some hot joint right there lol,, I don't know if I could listen to someone's sexual fantacies all day without gettin bothered (is that what it is?? LOL)

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I'm so proud that there are women and young ladies out here who still believe in "reserving the goods". In a way I kinda envy that. Not saying I go sleeping around with alot of men. But I will say that I'm a woman that has little to few sexual inhibitions. But I always seem to have the Robin Givens "Boomerang" affect on men. Like I've said before, I have no problem getting some good lovin', getting up in the morning and leaving a man drooling sucking his thumb..... Berfore I began my company I was going to school for Human Social Behavioral Science to become a sex therapist. So I guess you can see where I'm going with this...lol. But I just commend all of you for being strong and knowing your worth. There are so many woman out here struggling with that. Also the fact that we can have an open discussion like this and not feel like we're being judged is amazing. Kudos ladies kudos!

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"Life is best lived Giving Love and Sharing responsibility"
~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3~~~~<3
:::Listening 2:::: Chrisette Michele "Love is You":::::

I wasn't going for the "post award" but maybe next time Lol. Fellas do feel free to voice your opinions on this matter. I'm often asking for points of view on topics I post, because communication is part of my job I'm always eager to hear what men have to say as well as women.

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.:The Power of LOVE is BiGGeR than BoTh of US:.

Okay, that has to be the longest comment I have read on this board. Ever. lol. You win the award if there was one. lol.
I feel what ur saying on the celibacy issue and u know what? Its kinda inspired me more to know that others have been there and are doing great. Thats something to get me thru the cold and lonesome nights. lol
However, it wud be nice to hear a guys point of view, but I dont know if there are any guys on here tho. If ur a guy and ur reading this, dont be ashamed to come on out, HOLLA!!! lol

Can some of the men on the forum speak on the subject of celibacy too. It is always so refreshing to get a man's point of view, because you guys seem to know what's up (sometimes) lol ;)
cool.

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.:The Power of LOVE is BiGGeR than BoTh of US:.

Oh, I would most definitely have a "no definition" relationship with Mario!!!!!! I have to laugh about that because me and some of the girls were just talking about it and they said they had heard that Mario was a commited type of guy. He probably is down on the inside, but show business does volley with people's characters. Someone on here said something like that a while back. But I also believe in love at first sight like you said you had with your man mario4rory (lol) I don't knock it, no way..I've seen it happening myself. I had a friend who locked eyes with a man from clear across the room, and there was a female hanging on him, but when he and she looked into each others eyes, I can attest, it was pure magic, and those lovebirds forgot all about those people in the room. It was so funny and cute, yet romantic watching them connect with each other that way, across a crowded room (lol). That's a primary reason why I surely believe in love at first sight! I would love to see that couple now!
As far as my lady who has been celibate for all those years, she's not old or anything and she's kinda pretty. Definitely on the contrary Miss E, she "does not" have guys running away from her at all! What I've seen is more men after this woman! Could be because she's not easy and they might find it a cool thing if they know she ain't sleeping with every Tom, Dick and Harry that she meets (lol). I admire her fully. I admire how she tells them she's waiting for her "Mister Right"..It's a funny thing how people react when it comes to love, relationships and sex though, lol. I have faith that she will get her man and he will love and appreciate her for waiting for him. I gues it's something still special about the celibacy thing. I've heard about Lenny Kravitz is doing it like that too (lol) and my boy Lenny can do it, then it can't be that bad (lol)
I wonder if Mario could ever do it like that?! I mean celibacy. My friend is here saying she doubt it because too many of us "no definition" chicks be on him lol, but I don't care, I told her that's what he needs anyway.. some real GheTToLove and then those rumors would stop!!!!!!! lol I don't know,I recently heard that Mario does have a GheTToLove on the real though, but if she's not in show business, how can anybody know about her? We only hear about celebrity hookups.lol. I know I'm a bit chatty today, LOL
On another note, mario4rory, you knew right off that you and your man were meant for one another, huh? That's what's up. It goes further than just looking at the outward appearance of a person. It's deeper than that. It's a connection just like I talked about when my girl connected with her dude in the crowded restaurant and another funny thing is the people in the room could feel their connection; their chemistry. Their chemistry was on lock for sure, pure. That's another thing too, how some people might say they knew they were meant for each other because they had chemistry, but love goes so much deeper than that, don't you agree? I know I really must find what they're doing now. lol

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.:The Power of LOVE is BiGGeR than BoTh of US:.

lol..maybe i'm just a hopeless romantic..but i do see forever when i look at him...

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" We 'Otta Be Making Love
Instead Of Breaking Up
Come On Baby Let Me Show You I'm Fo' real
(Lay In My Bed)"
...MARIO....

lol Kerrie, o.k, I shd have said "No one knows the one just by looking at him, except Kerri" ha, ha. Urs is a one in a million story. Its people like u who give the other 999,999 of us the reason to believe in love at first sight. And I guess we're all still hoping and waiting......lol

ok before i start i have to warn you i'm bout to get mushy..lol..but i don't know Miss E bout this ....."No one can really tell the one just by looking at him"...i knew the min i looked at my man that he was it..when he walked into the room and i saw him for the first time it just hit me and i couldn't explain it..and no it wasn't just lust cause i've lusted before...and yes he is fine but i've dated fine men before 2...with him the connection was there before we even spoke..then after a week of group conversations with the other co-workers i asked for his #...which is something i NEVER do cause i'm really shy with guys...then the first nite on the phone we talked for 7 hours..to this day i have not connected with anyone else like this...the very first thing i said to my friend when i saw him was " that's him..my children's father..my lover for life"..and she laughed at me of course..lol..but i knew ,don't ask me how..i just did,,.ok i'm done...lol..

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" We 'Otta Be Making Love
Instead Of Breaking Up
Come On Baby Let Me Show You I'm Fo' real
(Lay In My Bed)"
...MARIO....

10 years???!!!! Oh my goodness. Thats tough. Why is she doing it?
Am sorry, I dont mean to question her decision, but hell yeah am questioning it. If she goes about telling guys who try to hit on her that she is staying celibate for "the one", they'll def race off. Even "the one" will take off as fast as he can when he hears that. Thats so deep its almost frightening. It wud be best if she just said she wasnt interested, rather than lay out her life plan like that.
No one can really tell the one just by looking at him. But hey, kudos to her. I've only done it a year and it is hard. Then again, am thinking to myself. Is it really that hard to find someone? What is the world coming to. Every guy I bump into wants to have a "no definition" relationship and I most certainly refuse to be anybody's jumpoff. Unless ur Mario. I'm just kiding. Honestly I am. Not even Marz has the key to this platinum chastity thong! lol.

You guys know how it is to be celibate then? I think it could be a big challenge myself lol. starduss did you really go on a date from hell? That might be something to make someone remain celibate lol

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.:The Power of LOVE is BiGGeR than BoTh of US:.

Celibacy is a real cool subject to discuss. The more I think of how a lady I know has been celibate for I guess ten years, I say power to those of us who can do it that long. I wonder about her sometimes though, like is she doing this for a special reason, for example. Is it beause of a personal preference or religion. One of the collegues asked her because he wanted to get with her on an intimate level and she told him she was waiting for her special man, so that made me think maybe it's more of a religious decision..I don't know, but some women would probably be climbing the walls after such a long time, not to mention the fellas. I feel for her sometimes because what if she can't get with her special man like that? And she's waited all those years for only him. Wow! I shudder the thought. This sure is deep! lol
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.:The Power of LOVE is BiGGeR than BoTh of US:.

OMG! that's exactly it! I couldn't have said it better myself Delilah50! I refuse to lower my standards just for a night of physical pleasure, not only is it about respect but you have to think of the future.I wouldn't be in a relationship or sleep with a man that I can't see as my future husband or the father of my kids. You have to take all possibilities into consideration, cause if you're having sex with them there's a chance that can happen.......think about it.... people get all hot in the pants and sleep with someone without really knowing who they are, and then wonder why they have to deal with baby mama/ baby daddy drama. I know every case is different but certain situations can be avoided if people would just think a little less with there hormones.

Thats what I love about you guys, the fact that we can talk about stuff without feeling weird about it is great.
To be honest, av not been celibate as long as others, av only been for a year but its mad tough! At first it was about meeting someone, having a "boyfriend" first, but then as they trickled in, I kinda thought "do i wanna give it up to him or him or him? Nah, they just didnt seem worth it. I guess am kinda waiting to meet someone that I connect with first b4 giving it up, that way its more meaningful.
I have to admit Its hard, I dunno.....it worries me atimes. I have so much respect for myself and dont like to compromise my dignity, so I know I wont be having random spontaneous one night of fire sex with the guy grinding into me at the club.
If ur out there and are in a serious loving relationship, a.k.a KerriAnn, ur sooo damn lucky. I feel that life is about finding someone u can share it with, someone who accepts and understands you for exactly who you are, someone who is more than willing to reach out to you and share whatever burden you may have to carry.
Okay, thats deep. I'll stop here!

Me too. Have done it for at least 2 years, more than once. After a while you stop counting.

When you reach the point in your life where you will no longer accept less than you deserve, it becomes easier to withstand. Not saying it isn't difficult at all, but for me it is worth it to maintain my self respect. Marriage and commitment isn't for everyone, but you have to decide what you want for yourself. If casual flings work for you, great. They don't work for me anymore.

Kudos to the ladies who are going through the challenge.

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Deli

I did it for 3 years, got into a serious relationship and couldn't resist temptation. Since I've been single it's about to be another 3 years. I just can't give my body to someone I can't see a future with. It's not that bad once you get use to it but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have my moments. The guy that I work with, you know..... the date from hell...well, he trained me when I first started the job and I use to just fantasize about throwing everything off the table and having my way with him....lol, with the men I've been meeting lately it looks like I'm going to be celibate for a while!

lmao@ Nita "After like 8 months I couldn't take it!"...lol...i feel you girl...i did do it for 5 years but then i met my love and that's all she wrote..lol...that man got me SILLY..lol..

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" We 'Otta Be Making Love
Instead Of Breaking Up
Come On Baby Let Me Show You I'm Fo' real
(Lay In My Bed)"
...MARIO....